silver colour

in article doraymeRidThis-A295B8.18251424072006.TakeThisOut@news-vip.optusnet.com.au,
dorayme at doraymeRidThis.TakeThisOut@optusnet.com.au wrote on 24-07-2006 10:25:

> In article
> <doraymeRidThis-0CFEDC.18025924072006.TakeThisOut@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
> dorayme <doraymeRidThis.TakeThisOut@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> What would you recommend in CYMK percentages for a silver,
>> metallic look, but mattish. In fact, like a lot of aluminium that
>> is not polished shiny...
>
> I should add, for printing....


I would say Pantone 877, it is very hard to approach Pantone Colors in CMYK
but: CMYK 27 - 18 - 19 - 3 probably is the closest you can get.

steg
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

Yes, thanks for this steg... all these plain colours look just grey to
me! I am wanting an aluminium look...(for a printed item detailing an
aluminium product) perhaps I will have to photograph some aluminium and
use this as background to a card that is being printed, unless there is
a nice pic somewhere I can use (needs to be of non-glossy aluminium, at
least 15cm by 15cm at 300 dpi I guess. I can get it by using my camera
otherwise... any thoughts?


steggy wrote:
> in article doraymeRidThis-A295B8.18251424072006.DeleteThis@news-vip.optusnet.com.au,
> dorayme at doraymeRidThis.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au wrote on 24-07-2006 10:25:
>
> > In article
> > <doraymeRidThis-0CFEDC.18025924072006.DeleteThis@news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
> > dorayme <doraymeRidThis.DeleteThis@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> What would you recommend in CYMK percentages for a silver,
> >> metallic look, but mattish. In fact, like a lot of aluminium that
> >> is not polished shiny...
> >
> > I should add, for printing....
>
>
> I would say Pantone 877, it is very hard to approach Pantone Colors in CMYK
> but: CMYK 27 - 18 - 19 - 3 probably is the closest you can get.
>
> steg
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

I see you are posting from Ozzie land.......so no clue if this helps you but
I recently came across a "new" printing technique called MetalFX. Brought on
the market in Holland (among other countries) by a company called Smurfit
Kappa Zedek (what's in a name). They also have a UK branch in Leicester.

It is a nice metallic look (gold or silver). Maybe you should ask around if
that is known in Australia.

Other thing is you cmn get CD's with all kinds of backgrounds on it in
HiRes, I am sure metallic backgrounds are available also. Try a Graphical
Supplies shop or maybe even stockimages on the internet.
I typed "metallic background" in Google and saw some interesting links.

steg




> Yes, thanks for this steg... all these plain colours look just grey to
> me! I am wanting an aluminium look...(for a printed item detailing an
> aluminium product) perhaps I will have to photograph some aluminium and
> use this as background to a card that is being printed, unless there is
> a nice pic somewhere I can use (needs to be of non-glossy aluminium, at
> least 15cm by 15cm at 300 dpi I guess. I can get it by using my camera
> otherwise... any thoughts?
>
>
> steggy wrote:
>> in article doraymeRidThis-A295B8.18251424072006 RemoveThis @news-vip.optusnet.com.au,
>> dorayme at doraymeRidThis RemoveThis @optusnet.com.au wrote on 24-07-2006 10:25:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <doraymeRidThis-0CFEDC.18025924072006 RemoveThis @news-vip.optusnet.com.au>,
>>> dorayme <doraymeRidThis RemoveThis @optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What would you recommend in CYMK percentages for a silver,
>>>> metallic look, but mattish. In fact, like a lot of aluminium that
>>>> is not polished shiny...
>>>
>>> I should add, for printing....
>>
>>
>> I would say Pantone 877, it is very hard to approach Pantone Colors in CMYK
>> but: CMYK 27 - 18 - 19 - 3 probably is the closest you can get.
>>
>> steg
>
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

The thing about metals is that they are not a single "color". What
makes metal look "metalic" is the surface and the reflections. No
single CMYK or RGB color can do that! Do a search for "photoshop metal
tutorials". This is (for me at least) a bit easier to do in photoshop
and then bring into illustrator. Hope that helps

Tom
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

Tom Ferguson wrote:
> The thing about metals is that they are not a single "color". What
> makes metal look "metalic" is the surface and the reflections. No
> single CMYK or RGB color can do that! Do a search for "photoshop metal
> tutorials". This is (for me at least) a bit easier to do in photoshop
> and then bring into illustrator. Hope that helps
>
> Tom


So true Tom. That is why I brought up special printing techniques. Just
ink will never do that.

But how do you do that in Photoshop......and then print in CMYK.....it
will not happen.
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

In article <C0EBA92B.3096%steggy2001@hotmail.com>,
steggy <steggy2001.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I see you are posting from Ozzie land.......so no clue if this helps you but
> I recently came across a "new" printing technique called MetalFX. Brought on
> the market in Holland (among other countries) by a company called Smurfit
> Kappa Zedek (what's in a name). They also have a UK branch in Leicester.
>
> It is a nice metallic look (gold or silver). Maybe you should ask around if
> that is known in Australia.
>
> Other thing is you cmn get CD's with all kinds of backgrounds on it in
> HiRes, I am sure metallic backgrounds are available also. Try a Graphical
> Supplies shop or maybe even stockimages on the internet.
> I typed "metallic background" in Google and saw some interesting links.
>
> steg

Hi steg, it is not for me but for a co which prints overseas...
no control over this. But it is interesting, your information. I
ended up photographing the top of my DVD player and brightening
and cropping the image and using this! Sure looks better than all
the greys... much more metally!

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dorayme
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

In article <250720060846247681%tomf2468@sbcglobal.net>,
Tom Ferguson <tomf2468 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> The thing about metals is that they are not a single "color". What
> makes metal look "metalic" is the surface and the reflections. No
> single CMYK or RGB color can do that! Do a search for "photoshop metal
> tutorials". This is (for me at least) a bit easier to do in photoshop
> and then bring into illustrator. Hope that helps
>
> Tom

Yes, this also dawned on my thick skull and I got out my fancy
digital camera and used a pic of aluminium...

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dorayme
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

dorayme wrote:
> In article <C0EBA92B.3096%steggy2001@hotmail.com>,
> steggy <steggy2001 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I see you are posting from Ozzie land.......so no clue if this helps you but
>>I recently came across a "new" printing technique called MetalFX. Brought on
>>the market in Holland (among other countries) by a company called Smurfit
>>Kappa Zedek (what's in a name). They also have a UK branch in Leicester.
>>
>>It is a nice metallic look (gold or silver). Maybe you should ask around if
>>that is known in Australia.
>>
>>Other thing is you cmn get CD's with all kinds of backgrounds on it in
>>HiRes, I am sure metallic backgrounds are available also. Try a Graphical
>>Supplies shop or maybe even stockimages on the internet.
>>I typed "metallic background" in Google and saw some interesting links.
>>
>>steg
>
>
> Hi steg, it is not for me but for a co which prints overseas...
> no control over this. But it is interesting, your information. I
> ended up photographing the top of my DVD player and brightening
> and cropping the image and using this! Sure looks better than all
> the greys... much more metally!
>
It seems t me, that the obvious solution to this problem, would be to
use the gradient tool to make a reasonable facsimile of metal. Just
using black and while and maybe a blue in some instances will yield a
very realistic metallic looking image.
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour 

In article <44CCD699.20908.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net>,
Rick Koelsch <rkoelsch.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > Hi steg, it is not for me but for a co which prints overseas...
> > no control over this. But it is interesting, your information. I
> > ended up photographing the top of my DVD player and brightening
> > and cropping the image and using this! Sure looks better than all
> > the greys... much more metally!
> >
> It seems t me, that the obvious solution to this problem, would be to
> use the gradient tool to make a reasonable facsimile of metal. Just
> using black and while and maybe a blue in some instances will yield a
> very realistic metallic looking image.

Well, is it easier than what I did? I guess depends on your
skill.

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dorayme
 >> Stay informed about: silver colour