Naive newbie text import question

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iehsmith wrote:
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>
> You've kinda lost me here. If you've placed the text then it should come in
> as a text box, not a group of objects. You would select the text with the
> text tool.
>
> hope this helps a little anyway,
> inez


True, I use Illy 10, say Place, and choose the document type
(DOC in this case I guess). It appears in a blue box, but
editing and copying and pasting is all possible with the
text tool. So 9 and 10 have it, I would be surprised if CS
does not.
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> See, this is the type of question that we should see more often.

Not sure if this is sarcastic...

> Are you trying to move para5 within the same flow of text?
>
> Or, do you want it elsewhere on the page?

Sorry if I wasn't clear. The Word document is a title page, consisting
of several one line paragraphs:

My book

By me

In 2004

or whatever. When I open it in Illustrator, I get a page with a single
big rectangle, containing the paragraphs: when I click on it, it
selects the rectangle around the text, and each paragraph inside with
a little blue line under the start of it, just like normally selected
text. What I want is *just* to be able to select the paragraph, say
"In 2004" in the example above, and move this down the page, keeping
the other paragraphs fixed. Like if I added a couple of carriage
returns in my original Word document and reimported it. Probably it
would be simpler just to do exactly that, but I'd like to figure this
out in Illy for future reference. What I meant in my previous message
is that the effect is like I'd selected all the paragraphs and Grouped
them, though that's not what's actually happened because I can't
Ungroup them using the menu.

Pete
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pete_griffint.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (Pete Griffint) wrote:

>> See, this is the type of question that we should see more often.
>
> Not sure if this is sarcastic...

Pete,

Nope, no sarcasm -
you asked a good, serious but basic question.

Some of the other posters have been going on about how they always get
referred to the manual. Your question is one of those rare ones that is
not easily answered with a page reference. It is an honest question.

> What I want is *just* to be able to select the paragraph, say
> "In 2004" in the example above, and move this down the page, keeping
> the other paragraphs fixed.

Import it seperately into a new text box. You can then not only move it
down the page, independently, but also twirl it, reshape it - the
possibilities are endless.

> Like if I added a couple of carriage
> returns in my original Word document and reimported it. Probably it
> would be simpler just to do exactly that,

Yes, indeed it would - if that is all that you wanted to do.

> the effect is like I'd selected all the paragraphs and Grouped
> them, though that's not what's actually happened because I can't
> Ungroup them using the menu.

Import them seperately and then group them =)

Illy really will let you do *anything* with your text. Do the bulk of the
word processing in Word, and then the layout in Illy. Import the text as
discrete chunks, and you can then arrange them to suit you.

The Doormouse

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The Doormouse <doormouse.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote:

> pete_griffint.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (Pete Griffint) wrote:
>
>>> See, this is the type of question that we should see more often.
>>
>> Not sure if this is sarcastic...
>
> Pete,
>
> Nope, no sarcasm -
> you asked a good, serious but basic question.
>
> Some of the other posters have been going on about how they always get
> referred to the manual. Your question is one of those rare ones that
> is not easily answered with a page reference. It is an honest
> question.
>
>> What I want is *just* to be able to select the paragraph, say
>> "In 2004" in the example above, and move this down the page, keeping
>> the other paragraphs fixed.
>
Addendum:

Some things just are not that obvious, particularly to a new user. It is
nice to help out with stuff like that.

For example, did you know that Microsoft recommends using Illustrator for
icon design? You would not find that in the manual.

The Doormouse

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Use your type tool and copy and paste the text instead, creating
separate text objects for each paragraph/heading.

Stuart
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Stuart <stuart.TakeThisOut@nospam.uk> wrote:

> Use your type tool and copy and paste the text instead, creating
> separate text objects for each paragraph/heading.

Oops. yes, that is the best way *blush*

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iehsmith wrote:
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> >
What you are trying to say is I believe what Pete is looking
for. Let me give it a try.

1. Open a document in Illy
2. Place your word doc in the page (choose Doc in the File
types, or if applicable RTF etcetera)
3. Switch to the Text tool (the T in your toolbox), ignore
the blue "textbox"
4. Select (highlight) and Cut the paragraph you want to move
and Paste it where you want it to be

It is as simple as that:)
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