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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Dividing a line [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <C016DD30.48AB4%inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net>,
iehsmith <inezhsmithspammenot.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2/13/06 2:28 PM, steggy commented:
>
> > iehsmith wrote:
> >> On 2/12/06 5:49 PM, Doug Winger commented:
> >>
> >>
> >>> In article <puoHf.249803$X_3.7560225@phobos.telenet-ops.be>,
> >>> "Yammaski" <yammaski.DeleteThis@pandora.be> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> How can I add a ancherpoint just in the middle of a line (between two
> >>>> ancherpoints) ?
> >>>> Is here a trick for ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yammaski.
> >>>
> >>> First, if the line is "square" to your angular snap settings: Clone
> >>> constrained from one anchor using the flip tool, then join and scale.
> >>> Using the rotate-constrained-with-copy works, too.
> >>>
> >>> A more general-purpose method, especially handy for those odd-angled
> >>> lines, is to draw a box over the line, from the lower anchor to the
> >>> upper, then add an anchor using the center point of the box as a guide.
> >>> Or reverse the method, and draw the line out over the box, using it as a
> >>> guide.
> >>>
> >>> Or draw a box, average one end to form a triangle, delete the 'other'
> >>> line, then average the points to form a straight line. This only works
> >>> horizontally or vertically, though.
> >>>
> >>> There are other methods as well. About the handiest advice I can give to
> >>> people faced with these sorts of problems it to think back to their
> >>> highschool geometry classes.
> >>>
> >>> -Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> OI! I was terrible at math! Now I like my previous solution from 2/11/06.
> >> Seems like it worked on a curved path segment, though I can't find a way in
> >> 9.0.2 to measure a curved line to check for certain.
> >>
> >> inez
> >>
> >
> >
> > If it is a single curve (like a segment of an oval): again, use the
> > transform tool.
>
> I used the pencil tool to draw a path with several curves; but I scissored
> the 2 anchors between which I wanted to add a center anchor using Add Anchor
> Points; then I rejoined them to the rest of the curved path. This was an
> open path, not a closed object.
>
> > The more complicated the drawingt is of course the more complex the
> > needed maths will be;))
>
> I'm hopeless with math; thank goodness for calculators;)
>
> > BTW how is the mail man treating you?
>
> The postman has not been forthcoming:(
>
> inez
Ah! Curved line? Simple- provided there's only two ending anchor points.
You can scissor out the section if there's more, and then rejoin- but...
Objects -> Path -> Add Anchor Points
This will add an anchor equidistant between every two existing ones on a
path.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:01 pm
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:29 pm
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iehsmith wrote:
> On 2/13/06 2:28 PM, steggy commented:
>
>
>>BTW how is the mail man treating you?
>
>
> The postman has not been forthcoming:(
>
> inez
>
In that case I WILL DO WHAT A GOOD OLD DUTCH SAYING TELLS ME TO DO!!!!
Try again and add a Jalapeņo Pepper in his a$$$!
steg
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:39 pm
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:46 pm
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iehsmith wrote:
> On 2/14/06 11:29 AM, steggy commented:
>
>
>>iehsmith wrote:
>>
>>>On 2/13/06 2:28 PM, steggy commented:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>BTW how is the mail man treating you?
>>>
>>>
>>>The postman has not been forthcoming:(
>>>
>>>inez
>>>
>>
>>In that case I WILL DO WHAT A GOOD OLD DUTCH SAYING TELLS ME TO DO!!!!
>>
>>Try again and add a Jalapeņo Pepper in his a$$$!
>>
>>steg
>
>
>
> LOL!
>
> I received a mail order (MacMall) catalog last week. All the special offer
> expiration dates were last December.
>
> inez
>
I remember in Tucson I received a Christmas card in December 2003, from
a Dutch friend.........it was posted in November 2002.....
Who is to blame is not a valid question here;)
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:29 am
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steggy wrote:
> Trace Elliot wrote:
>> Yammaski wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I know !
>>>
>>> But how to put it right in the middle between two ancherpoints ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you select the two anchor points with the Selection Tool (the black
>> one) You'll get the Bounding Box around the selection. You can drag
>> out a guide (From the Ruler (Ctrl+R)) and place it on the 'cube' in
>> the middle of the bounding box. Now you can use the Pen Tool and add
>> an anchor point on the path at the guide line. (depending on your
>> version of Illi) The 'normal' Pen Tool will have a little '+' sign
>> next to the Pen when you are above the path otherwise you need to
>> select the 'Add anchor point tool', and the just hit the mouse button.
>>
>> PS Unfortunately, the guide doesn't snap to the middle of the bounding
>> box like it does in Photoshop, but maybe somebody else know how to get
>> that done. (I'd love to hear that). But it does help if you have
>> View>Snap to point (Alt+Ctrl+") active. Then the pen Tool will snap to
>> the guide's position.
>>
>> HTH (and made sense)
>
>
> Another work around:
>
> Make the line
> Select it
> Hit the Rotation tool, a mark will appear right in the center
> Click with the rotation cursor (with the Alt key pressed) on that mark
> Type 90 degrees and hit copy
> Lock the vertical line
> Add an achor point where the two lines are crossed
>
> Unlock all and delete the vertical line.
>
> I seem to remember in older versions there was a command under Object:
> Show Center Point.......cannot find that one anymore.
>
>
> Another way is using the transform palette, you can exactly pinpoint
> your anchor point.
>
> Example:
> -Draw a line of say 10 centimeters
> -To make it easy on yourself make sure the beginning of that line is on
> a comfortable position, say X = 5 (hence the end of the line is on x=15,
> but you can take any position and length for this as long as you are
> able to do maths:))
> -Add an anchor point just ramdom somewhere on the line
> -Select that anchor point (most of the times it is easier to drag the
> mouse over the area you know the point is situated) and type in 10 (x=5
> + half the length of the line) in the X coordinate in the Transform palette
>
> So the secret is just adding half the length of the line to the X point
> of the left side (or deduct it from the X-positon of the right side)and
> type that in the Transform Palette while the new anchor point is
> selected.. it will move over.
>
> Sounds more complicated than it really is.
>
I was just using the 'Photoshop approach', which is not working all the
time, unfortunately, but I'm still sort of an Illustrator newby. Your
tips sound much more 'mature'. Thanx for those, Steg.
PS Talking about the PS Approach. I think it's a real shame you can't
use your scroll wheel in the Layers Palette, like you can in PS. Or am I
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:43 pm
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Trace Elliot wrote:
> steggy wrote:
>
>> Trace Elliot wrote:
>>
>>> Yammaski wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I know !
>>>>
>>>> But how to put it right in the middle between two ancherpoints ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you select the two anchor points with the Selection Tool (the
>>> black one) You'll get the Bounding Box around the selection. You can
>>> drag out a guide (From the Ruler (Ctrl+R)) and place it on the 'cube'
>>> in the middle of the bounding box. Now you can use the Pen Tool and
>>> add an anchor point on the path at the guide line. (depending on your
>>> version of Illi) The 'normal' Pen Tool will have a little '+' sign
>>> next to the Pen when you are above the path otherwise you need to
>>> select the 'Add anchor point tool', and the just hit the mouse button.
>>>
>>> PS Unfortunately, the guide doesn't snap to the middle of the
>>> bounding box like it does in Photoshop, but maybe somebody else know
>>> how to get that done. (I'd love to hear that). But it does help if
>>> you have View>Snap to point (Alt+Ctrl+") active. Then the pen Tool
>>> will snap to the guide's position.
>>>
>>> HTH (and made sense)
>>
>>
>>
>> Another work around:
>>
>> Make the line
>> Select it
>> Hit the Rotation tool, a mark will appear right in the center
>> Click with the rotation cursor (with the Alt key pressed) on that mark
>> Type 90 degrees and hit copy
>> Lock the vertical line
>> Add an achor point where the two lines are crossed
>>
>> Unlock all and delete the vertical line.
>>
>> I seem to remember in older versions there was a command under Object:
>> Show Center Point.......cannot find that one anymore.
>>
>>
>> Another way is using the transform palette, you can exactly pinpoint
>> your anchor point.
>>
>> Example:
>> -Draw a line of say 10 centimeters
>> -To make it easy on yourself make sure the beginning of that line is
>> on a comfortable position, say X = 5 (hence the end of the line is on
>> x=15, but you can take any position and length for this as long as you
>> are able to do maths:))
>> -Add an anchor point just ramdom somewhere on the line
>> -Select that anchor point (most of the times it is easier to drag the
>> mouse over the area you know the point is situated) and type in 10
>> (x=5 + half the length of the line) in the X coordinate in the
>> Transform palette
>>
>> So the secret is just adding half the length of the line to the X
>> point of the left side (or deduct it from the X-positon of the right
>> side)and type that in the Transform Palette while the new anchor point
>> is selected.. it will move over.
>>
>> Sounds more complicated than it really is.
>>
>
> I was just using the 'Photoshop approach', which is not working all the
> time, unfortunately, but I'm still sort of an Illustrator newby. Your
> tips sound much more 'mature'. Thanx for those, Steg.
>
> PS Talking about the PS Approach. I think it's a real shame you can't
> use your scroll wheel in the Layers Palette, like you can in PS. Or am I
> missing something?
Not sure, no scroll wheel here at home. Have to try the mighty mouse at
work tomorrow:)
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