Converting fonts back to fonts?

AES wrote:

> Have a one page PDF document containing just a small amount of text --
> but file size is 900 kB instead of say 20 or 30 kB.
>
> Opening it in Illustrator and selecting any one character in the text
> causes the Type palette to indicate that each such character is
> Helvetica Neue, Regular, 14 pt -- but looking more closely at the
> character itself seems to show that each character in the text has been,
> for some reason, converted into a separate and complex vector object.
>
> And, pulling down the Type >> Find Fonts menu command seems to show that
> the document contains _no_ fonts at all (in either half of the Find
> window) . . . ???
>
> Is there a quick, safe way to convert this document back into "real
> type"?

OCR program?
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PDFrank wrote:
>> Is there a quick, safe way to convert this document back into "real
>> type"?
>
> OCR program?

That's the only option.

I often compare this with baking pan cakes.
You use eggs to make pan cakes, but once you
have a stack of pan cakes on a plate, you can't
extract the egg white and yoke anymore to put
them back in the eggshells.

br,
Bruno
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Bruno Lowagie wrote:
> PDFrank wrote:
>>> Is there a quick, safe way to convert this document back into "real
>>> type"?
>>
>> OCR program?
>
> That's the only option.
>
> I often compare this with baking pan cakes.
> You use eggs to make pan cakes, but once you
> have a stack of pan cakes on a plate, you can't
> extract the egg white and yoke anymore to put
> them back in the eggshells.
>
> br,
> Bruno

....so there's a computer program that I can run my pancakes through to
find out what's in em? I hope it's a free download...

--
Graham Waiffers

The poster formerly known as Roger Thaat, Watson deMeneux or Jack Skwaht.
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Bruno Lowagie wrote:

> PDFrank wrote:
>
>>> Is there a quick, safe way to convert this document back into "real
>>> type"?
>>
>>
>> OCR program?
>
>
> That's the only option.
>
> I often compare this with baking pan cakes.
> You use eggs to make pan cakes, but once you
> have a stack of pan cakes on a plate, you can't
> extract the egg white and yoke anymore to put
> them back in the eggshells.

I like:
It's easier to turn pigs into sausages
Than it is to turn sausages into pigs.
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Hi AES

A great little resource for this problem:
http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/

If you can't remember this link at a later date, just type in What the
font (Google gives it to you as the first link).

Copy your type into Photoshop and save as a jpg, then upload. It'll
give you a list of fonts it may be.



HTH

---
CL8'N
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CL8'N schreef:
> Hi AES
>
> A great little resource for this problem:
> http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/
>
> If you can't remember this link at a later date, just type in What the
> font (Google gives it to you as the first link).
>
> Copy your type into Photoshop and save as a jpg, then upload. It'll
> give you a list of fonts it may be.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> ---
> CL8'N


hahahahahahahaha
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Peter schreef:
> CL8'N schreef:
>> Hi AES
>>
>> A great little resource for this problem:
>> http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/
>>
>> If you can't remember this link at a later date, just type in What the
>> font (Google gives it to you as the first link).
>>
>> Copy your type into Photoshop and save as a jpg, then upload. It'll
>> give you a list of fonts it may be.
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> ---
>> CL8'N
>
>
> hahahahahahahaha


Oops I realized this might be offending LOL

But I just enjoyed this loop.....

Ok we've typed something in Illustrator
Now let's make outlines
Oops!!
Start Firefox and go to whatthefont.com!

OOOOOOOOO it IS an Arial!

just having fun Connie, but in the end your answer works.
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In article <681irsF2rb59fU1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
Peter <steggy2001.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> Copy your type into Photoshop and save as a jpg, then upload. It'll
> >> give you a list of fonts it may be.
> >
> >
> > hahahahahahahaha
>
> Oops I realized this might be offending LOL
>
> But I just enjoyed this loop.....
>
> Ok we've typed something in Illustrator
> Now let's make outlines
> Oops!!
> Start Firefox and go to whatthefont.com!
>
> OOOOOOOOO it IS an Arial!
>
> just having fun Connie, but in the end your answer works.

As the OP I'm relatively clueless on the fine details here. I knew
enough to recognize that each character had been (at some unknown time
earlier) converted into a vector outline. Illustrator, however, still
seemed to know (or at least remember from earlier) what font each such
character was from.

So questions were (and still are):

1) Does Illustrator also still remember, or can it deduce, what
specific character each vector outline image is (or was)?

2) And if that knowledge is still there, can the individual images be
converted back? Is there a command in Illustrator to do this.
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AES schreef:
> In article <681irsF2rb59fU1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
> Peter <steggy2001.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Copy your type into Photoshop and save as a jpg, then upload. It'll
>>>> give you a list of fonts it may be.
>>>
>>> hahahahahahahaha
>> Oops I realized this might be offending LOL
>>
>> But I just enjoyed this loop.....
>>
>> Ok we've typed something in Illustrator
>> Now let's make outlines
>> Oops!!
>> Start Firefox and go to whatthefont.com!
>>
>> OOOOOOOOO it IS an Arial!
>>
>> just having fun Connie, but in the end your answer works.
>
> As the OP I'm relatively clueless on the fine details here. I knew
> enough to recognize that each character had been (at some unknown time
> earlier) converted into a vector outline. Illustrator, however, still
> seemed to know (or at least remember from earlier) what font each such
> character was from.
>
> So questions were (and still are):
>
> 1) Does Illustrator also still remember, or can it deduce, what
> specific character each vector outline image is (or was)?
>
> 2) And if that knowledge is still there, can the individual images be
> converted back? Is there a command in Illustrator to do this.


For both the answer is no.

The font has been converted to vector, the font is no font anymore.
But do try Connie's idea, lots of times it works like a charm if your
font is clear. No need for Photoshop, just save a line of text as JPEG
in Illustrator, upload it in http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ and
follow the instructions.
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"Peter" <steggy2001 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:682uisF2r04l1U1@mid.individual.net...
> AES schreef:
> > In article <681irsF2rb59fU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
> > Peter <steggy2001 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>> Copy your type into Photoshop and save as a jpg, then upload. It'll
> >>>> give you a list of fonts it may be.
> >>>
> >>> hahahahahahahaha
> >> Oops I realized this might be offending LOL
> >>
> >> But I just enjoyed this loop.....
> >>
> >> Ok we've typed something in Illustrator
> >> Now let's make outlines
> >> Oops!!
> >> Start Firefox and go to whatthefont.com!
> >>
> >> OOOOOOOOO it IS an Arial!
> >>
> >> just having fun Connie, but in the end your answer works.
> >
> > As the OP I'm relatively clueless on the fine details here. I knew
> > enough to recognize that each character had been (at some unknown time
> > earlier) converted into a vector outline. Illustrator, however, still
> > seemed to know (or at least remember from earlier) what font each such
> > character was from.
> >
> > So questions were (and still are):
> >
> > 1) Does Illustrator also still remember, or can it deduce, what
> > specific character each vector outline image is (or was)?
> >
> > 2) And if that knowledge is still there, can the individual images be
> > converted back? Is there a command in Illustrator to do this.
>
>
> For both the answer is no.
>
> The font has been converted to vector, the font is no font anymore.
> But do try Connie's idea, lots of times it works like a charm if your
> font is clear. No need for Photoshop, just save a line of text as JPEG
> in Illustrator, upload it in http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ and
> follow the instructions.

Actually, I didn't contribute anything to this thread!

I've only tried OCRing a few times ... for some reason, every scanner (and
the accompanying OCR software) I've ever tried it on has stunk and it ended
up harder to edit the misreads later than it was to either type it myself
(I'm a pretty good typist!) or hire someone else to do it!

Since my advice would have been to just retype it or hire someone else to, I
figured that'd be too much of a bummer and didn't say anything!

--
Connie
FREE patterns n' FREE eZine at my blog:
http://sewverycreative.blogspot.com
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Hey! Thanks for the What The Font site!! I have been trying to find the name
of a particular font I like for so long. I put the logo on that site and
within 1 minute, someone replied with the correct font!!! yahoo!!! Tx!

"CL8'N" <clayton.storey.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a838ab44-131e-4a90-9884-759739f1aac8@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> Hi AES
>
> A great little resource for this problem:
> http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/
>
> If you can't remember this link at a later date, just type in What the
> font (Google gives it to you as the first link).
>
> Copy your type into Photoshop and save as a jpg, then upload. It'll
> give you a list of fonts it may be.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> ---
> CL8'N
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gunsmokegirl wrote:
> Hey! Thanks for the What The Font site!! I have been trying to find the name
> of a particular font I like for so long. I put the logo on that site and
> within 1 minute, someone replied with the correct font!!! yahoo!!! Tx!
>

And when WhatTheFont doesn't work you can try http://www.identifont.com/

--
inez

E.A. Poe • Eleanora
“They who dream by day are cognizant of many things
which escape those who dream only by night.”
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